Game Update Update 1/15/2023 - Class Balance Revision

[Irregular]

Nothing is perfect, everything can be change. It only depends on how we use our advantage. No point on changing stats of some character. Even though Administrator did what we/you suggest, it still depends on US on how we take the other consideration of Items/buffs/achievements and Internet connection. I say, we play for fun. If we can't win, recruit some friends who plays already or has account already on the game. Then if your new too, then invite some friends online so you could share the burden of being killed together. Right?

 

[TRiGGER MAN]

Nothing is perfect, everything can be change. It only depends on how we use our advantage. No point on changing stats of some character. Even though Administrator did what we/you suggest, it still depends on US on how we take the other consideration of Items/buffs/achievements and Internet connection. I say, we play for fun. If we can't win, recruit some friends who plays already or has account already on the game. Then if your new too, then invite some friends online so you could share the burden of being killed together. Right?

I don't get what you're getting at here, this update was made to balance all the characters, so that all the characters are fair and equal.

 

[Irregular]

I don't get what you're getting at here, this update was made to balance all the characters, so that all the characters are fair and equal.

The point here is every character has its own advantage, why would we reduce a character due we can't kill it if they have their character advantage. How can we balance the characters when we have different Items/ibuff/achievement. If we want a fair fight, why not remove everything item etc and just plain pvp naked?

 

[TRiGGER MAN]

The point here is every character has its own advantage, why would we reduce a character due we can't kill it if they have their character advantage. How can we balance the characters when we have different Items/ibuff/achievement. If we want a fair fight, why not remove everything item etc and just plain pvp naked?

if we do what you say. what will be the outcome of our character without everything, hehehehe. do you think it's ok to pvp naked? Don't be angry, it's just a question, but for me there is no problem because every pvp battle depends on us, it depends on our style in the game, and more than anything it depends on your potting rate.

 

[Irregular]

if we do what you say. what will be the outcome of our character without everything, hehehehe. do you think it's ok to pvp naked? Don't be angry, it's just a question, but for me there is no problem because every pvp battle depends on us, it depends on our style in the game, and more than anything it depends on your potting rate.

Just like what I said first, it all depends on how we use our advantage. No hate bro, just some friendly conversation. What we can really do here to help this community is to recruit more players.

 

[TRiGGER MAN]

Just like what I said first, it all depends on how we use our advantage. No hate bro, just some friendly conversation.

the best thing my friend is , let's leave it to the staff about those things, because they do everything to maintain a clean and fair game..
let's leave things like that to them.

 

[JuanFag]

Well continuing where i droped it, maybe someone missunderstood, i wasn´t saying that MG was beating the SMs. I said that i couldn´t give the try MG deserves because everyone knows that a full set SD in sv3 is mostly useless and my SM was all SD. Of course a SM full SD in SV5 (CS) is another story, even the SM in SV3 With Full buff may be another story as well. But as Venci said full SD set without buff is almost Useless for every race that uses is, even DLs that are the tanks of the server. So resuming i was telling how good i see the MG is getting at and how a playable character is becoming. Continuing i will add the video of the "test" about the MG in Sv3

Later i will try to record the PvP between an Elf VS BK testing the Dmg @RESiSTANT changed ​

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[Alexz]

To be completely honest I would close this thread.

People are talking about a sensitive subject witch most don't even know what affect each class.

I would select a few to discuss being completely honest.

We are only trying to make server nice and playable for all character!

 

[ViolaMania]

So far so good ... No BM that i tested didn't rip easy my Elf .. Just a max buffed BM like janfabs could rip me by one TS ( yet i had only my buff and a crit from a random DL) .. rest of BM's were ok.
VS MG .. i can say i did a short test .. Elf vs MG( with no uniria) = a loong fight.. but MG will win.
What i just noticed now 10 minutes .. a Semi MG with fo acc ( not uber) NO IBUFF >> NO ACHIEVEMENTS could take down a Max DL then a Max SM ( no buffs were involved ) which is totally wrong . Maxed chars to fall like that vs this kind of a MG is outrageous.
I believe there's a huge mistake on the MG side settings done.
Also the HP of a MG to pass the BM one woth like 200k.. Incredible.
As a matter of fact i reloged in game to test him just for the sake of testing Max Elf vs semi MG no ibuff no achiev = .. forever and endless fight .
The MG Name is Lau23 .. u can check up on his Gears.
I do not tested the most of BM in a war situation because it's absolute abnormal to have a real feedback on how new setting are made. Just 1 vs 1 with them own buffs.
Sorry.. but i do not like that..
BM>DL>SM+MG>ELF .. ranking again.

 

[Brask007]

So far so good ... No BM that i tested didn't rip easy my Elf .. Just a max buffed BM like janfabs could rip me by one TS ( yet i had only my buff and a crit from a random DL) .. rest of BM's were ok.
VS MG .. i can say i did a short test .. Elf vs MG( with no uniria) = a loong fight.. but MG will win.
What i just noticed now 10 minutes .. a Semi MG with fo acc ( not uber) NO IBUFF >> NO ACHIEVEMENTS could take down a Max DL then a Max SM ( no buffs were involved ) which is totally wrong . Maxed chars to fall like that vs this kind of a MG is outrageous.
I believe there's a huge mistake on the MG side settings done.
Also the HP of a MG to pass the BM one woth like 200k.. Incredible.
As a matter of fact i reloged in game to test him just for the sake of testing Max Elf vs semi MG no ibuff no achiev = .. forever and endless fight .
The MG Name is Lau23 .. u can check up on his Gears.
I do not tested the most of BM in a war situation because it's absolute abnormal to have a real feedback on how new setting are made. Just 1 vs 1 with them own buffs.
Sorry.. but i do not like that..
BM>DL>SM+MG>ELF .. ranking again.

I don't agree on MG, what Lau23 using is Uniria+basic attacks that makes speedy basic hits, like if he were an ELF. I have to support @Deluxo's point on removing the usage of Dinorants on MG, like we did in the past removing IMP on BKs.

Another discussion point i'd raise is maybe to lower the soul barrier strength because it makes the fights between SM very long, with no winners, as all of SM users are DDR.
2SD+3DDR VS FULL DDR SM -> FULL DDR SM WINS.
5 SD VS FULL DDR SM -> FULL DDR Wins mostly, unless all the damages are mitigated thrugh SD -> making the hits miss.

Decreasing MS strenght will also solve some problems like DL tankyness and long fighting between classes when full buffed, as fights are almost buff-based in stadium

 

[ViolaMania]

Indeed uniria gave him constant attack.. but same it was for me from the Dino.
The thing I'm pointing out is that mg with the most weak and ugly gears i ever seen could beat like everything in his way.

Attention ! ... MG with no IBUFF.. no ACHIEVEMENTS.

And he is not the only one i was watching. There been alot other MG ripping Arena.

 

[Deluxo]

----------------- @Prince007 --------------------

I agree with Prince . It's sad that having achieved a good balance for the MG,
the use of unria breaks the game. Some have already taken advantage (who are
not even regular MG players) to mount uniria and bother under the protection
that that uniria gives them.

It is a very fast attack that can barely counter.
It does not reflect.
Allows running and attacking without requiring any skill from the player


----------------- @ViolaMania --------------------

On the other hand, I assume that you are talking about an MG+Uniria.
Because without Uniria:

MG vs ELF (both T2 arch + ibuff) MG can't win, in fact he can't even send attacks. (Check bow yellow opt?)

MG vs BM (both T2 arch+ibuff) also cannot defeat a BM T2 arch+ibuff when it has already reached
the buff swell, just hit 1-2 combos and make MG fly. Another thing is that BM is vulnerable without reaching
SWELL and kills him repeatedly. BM even with shield can kill MG without buffs.

MG semi no arch/ibuff wins¿? vs Uber DL +arch/ibuff: This is definitely impossible, ViolaMania must have
found a unique specimen on the server or a bad DL player.

A semi MG can opt for the tank and hold role on the board, but is never going to be a threat to someone full
uber +arch +ibuff with the right options.

 

[Montoku]

Ive tested SM DL vs MG. Its ok and still acceptable balance in PvP. But sadly the T2 Draco are very bad now and i think it can only be use for CS. I hope you can strengthen the draco set so it can be use in PvP as well because its cost me 25VD for the BTA. Hopefully you can look into this matters. Thanks

 

[Timmies]

All is well but too sad for sm because i tried using it vs dl it takes long to kill the dl and my dmg is some what like 3k to up even im using 4sd full horus set + kantata or maybe that dl has good pot rate. Correct me if im wrong.

And also Mg is pretty good now since they have higher dmg now Ive tested using it in pk and also in duel (using t2 virtus+ tyr sword+ ares sword and wiz ring) it works fine.

also I like how my freya uber got dmg already even its not yet "complete set".

thanks for the update admins.

 

[RESiSTANT]

All is well but too sad for sm because i tried using it vs dl it takes long to kill the dl and my dmg is some what like 3k to up even im using 4sd full horus set + kantata or maybe that dl has good pot rate. Correct me if im wrong.

Your opponent (Dark Lord) is wearing SD Decrease on his Arthur or scepter or Mace of Emperor. That's why he blocks your sd but doesn't matter that you can kill him because today we have done some changes regarding your case.
Those updates will be applied later today to server-3 (around 11 PM - 2 AM utc+3 because we are working and compiling on few more updates). I think you guys gonna like it.
Videos from today after the final class balance updates (test server-7).
SM pov

418.73 MB file on MEGA

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DL pov

284.15 MB file on MEGA

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Equipments Used
Uber Horus 3 DDR, 2 SD, SD Dec for Staff (you can use any staff)+achievements+ibuff+pair kantata+apollo pendant of ice - both SM (try to use same for your SM because it's the optimal equipment against DL or at least same harmony options if you use other sets).
Uber Amun Full DDR, Arthur+ SD Dec for +achievements+ibuff+pair kantata - both DL (for the players with DL, try to use same harmony and equipment if possible - for optimal results).

Note that Horn of Uniria will be disabled for MG after today's scheduled update since we found it too much OP in our tests as well as in our players feedback in the posts.
Changelogs will be added to the first post of this thread.

 

[Alexz]

Update Jan 17, 2023
Server-3 (Odin) have been updated with the following:
- Reduced dmg formula with -15% of Elf vs BK.

Only affected class is ELF's damage done against BK. No other class is affected by this update. Elfs still do the same dmg to the rest of the classes.
Based in our tests with Peaceful everything went fine. Elf is no longer overpowered against BK. Please make your tests again and let me know here.

Thanks for tests, care and support. It's very appreciated.
@Stevie @Johon @Peaceful



Test @ Server-3 now please. Here's what I've updated now.
MG dmg to ELF have been increased with 20%.
I didn't have time to test but the change should do work for you. Let me know the results. =)

Hi,
As you previously requested on chat box I've tested a few things.

1. Elf vs mg. It is a much more balanced fight without any doubt!
However I personally would remove a tiny touch of the ref from the mg. As we all know elf uses dinos and gets no ref whatsoever. Mgs attack is now pretty nice but constant ref.

2. Sm vs sm. Nowadays with all the nerfed items it is pretty much a boring fight. I'd say that is the class to be played less and less.
You can't mix tier 2 draco with alviss, which in my case I bought both to be a nice sd sm.
Still not reduced the ref on dri vs dri :/ which is quite boring ! I know that is why sd exists but well.. Nobody wants to die fast.

2. Mg vs bk. Depends on who is playing but sometimes when I play mg vs bk, 1 cyclone is enough to kill the mg. Perhaps reduce the damage from bk so mg? I don't mind testing with the right people.
If bk has a good pot the mg stands no change!

If any of my comments do not make sense, let me know and I will clarify.

P.S.: Bring back small bow, jajajajaja


Will test later today sm vs dl and elf vs dl.

 

[-![ZERO]!-]

Just a quick observation from me since Im Working right now and I hate to join this conversation since I believe that ADMIN/STAFF's can Fix this

I don't like buffs coz buffs are for weaklings so We decided to use once buff (no Buffs for MG) to test PVP but got Shocked!!! What happened to DL

Tried DL vs MG ---- DL is super soft "Dead in an instant"

BK vs MG --- Well I agree with @Alexz statement above

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[RESiSTANT]

Server Update January 20, 2023:
1. Reduced DMG given by MG class vs SM class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
2. Reduced DMG given by BM class vs MG class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
3. Increased DMG given by SM class vs DL class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
4. Disabled the ability of MG class to wear Horn of Uniria due overpowered - left click attack.
*PVP formula is updated only in server-3 (siege server is not affected).
*Horn of Uniria is disabled in all the servers(Server-1 (necron) , Server-3 (odin) and Server 5 (siege))

To be reviewed:
Class Balance PVP between SM vs SM - make it more fun and challenging fights!
Class Balance PVP between MG vs DL - Make the DL class a bit more defensive vs MG class.
BETA Update: progress on MG vs DL (80% achieved balance between those classes, DL class is now more defensive against MG).
Go and test MG vs DL now and report here please!

Thanks for all your feedbacks. We are now expecting more feedbacks after today's update!
It's quite nice to play any class now and have it balanced as much as possible.

Questions to community:

Tried DL vs MG ---- DL is super soft "Dead in an instant"

@STREAMER please specify if the MG used Horn of Uniria at that time.

 

[-![ZERO]!-]

Server Update January 20, 2023:
1. Reduced DMG given by MG class vs SM class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
2. Reduced DMG given by BM class vs MG class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
3. Increased DMG given by SM class vs DL class in order to match balanced PVP and fair gameplay.
4. Disabled the ability of MG class to wear Horn of Uniria due overpowered - left click attack.
*PVP formula is updated only in server-3 (siege server is not affected).
*Horn of Uniria is disabled in all the servers(Server-1 (necron) , Server-3 (odin) and Server 5 (siege))

To be reviewed:
Class Balance PVP between SM vs SM - make it more fun and challenging fights!
Class Balance PVP between MG vs DL - Make the DL class a bit more defensive vs MG class.

Thanks for all your feedbacks. We are now expecting more feedbacks after today's update!
It's quite nice to play any class now and have it balanced as much as possible.

Questions to community:


@STREAMER please specify if the MG used Horn of Uniria at that time.

MG With or with out using Horn of Uniria still DL dead in an instant well since Im working right now I cant wait to try this new update Good job for making or giving time to make this PVPwell balanced. Kudos to the STAFF specially to @RESiSTANT

 

[RESiSTANT]

To be reviewed:
Class Balance PVP between SM vs SM - make it more fun and challenging fights!
Class Balance PVP between MG vs DL - Make the DL class a bit more defensive vs MG class.
Recent BETA Update: progress on MG vs DL (95% achieved balance between those classes, DL class is now more defensive against MG even tho needs to be tested by you guys.).
Go and test MG vs DL now and report here please!