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How many players registered in the site without checking the checkbox for the rules agreement? Zero? or All? I think you can answer that question yourself. Once checkbox is checked then they agreed and they read the understand the rules. Since normal person can read a text then he can understand what can be done in here and what can't be done. MageDragon is normal person and can accept and follow the rules, but others cannot? Why? They are mamuts? I understand that you mean to decrease the penalty, but read below.

For cheating/hacking I can agree with you because most videos are speeded-up and I myself deny any report which is like this, but still some GMs might blocked someone with such edited video and they are guilty for that and should unbar these players. Penalty can be decreased and speeded-up videos to be instantly denied reports. New banning procedures can apply.

About advertising I can't agree because what if everyone start discussing other muserver and what if they move to that server and steal other active members of InfinityMU to the other muserver? We can't just let them stealing like this. For example they discuss the server and we don't ban them, they will start probably start to sharing links. You are right a lot about telling others what server they played before with the purpose to find old friends, but in some other side this is not right just because the conversation can rise to something that I mentioned upper. New banning procedures will not be applied.

Racism - I don't think. The thread wasn't about Vietnamese at all, but just for single people who didn't have place in this community and most vietnamese doesn't have place. I mean about having some big reputation in forum and game just like some of our current GMs/MODs got while they was normal players. At the moment an player from Vietnam agree to follow the rules including helping/active in forum and helping in game he can be easily part from The Staff.

Porn - even in televisions porn is not good to be talked or shared links just because there are watchers below sixteen. Especially in our game there are very many players even below twelve. New banning procedures can apply.




Wake up because no one is blocked permanently for this. More information here. We give a chance to the user 3 times until he understands the rules about signature using. This is important rules because without it your reading on forums won't be that good as it's right now reading my post.

Auto-Pots/Combos I myself can agree for everyone 1 month ban is great warning, but they will doing it again and again, but no problem. 1 week first time and second 1 Month is good. We will update the banning procedures.

Sir venci how about abusing of lags are there no warnings for first offense? as far as i know "lags" is not an illegal program you just simply can't control your connection even fast connection still have lags i suggest you should be more strict on bug users than lag problems..
 
What will happen with players who say about other game online? (Not other MU online server)

Abt insulting, we should give them a chance, almost of players here are still young and need to learn more and more.
 
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About advertising I can't agree because what if everyone start discussing other muserver and what if they move to that server and steal other active members of InfinityMU to the other muserver? We can't just let them stealing like this. For example they discuss the server and we don't ban them, they will start probably start to sharing links. You are right a lot about telling others what server they played before with the purpose to find old friends, but in some other side this is not right just because the conversation can rise to something that I mentioned upper. New banning procedures will not be applied.

Depends of the situation..for example my first day here was a fail :D. I dueled a lot of players and one of them asked me on what server i played and then he reported me :D
 
How many players registered in the site without checking the checkbox for the rules agreement? Zero? or All? I think you can answer that question yourself. Once checkbox is checked then they agreed and they read the understand the rules. Since normal person can read a text then he can understand what can be done in here and what can't be done. MageDragon is normal person and can accept and follow the rules, but others cannot? Why? They are mamuts? I understand that you mean to decrease the penalty, but read below.

For cheating/hacking I can agree with you because most videos are speeded-up and I myself deny any report which is like this, but still some GMs might blocked someone with such edited video and they are guilty for that and should unbar these players. Penalty can be decreased and speeded-up videos to be instantly denied reports. New banning procedures can apply.

About advertising I can't agree because what if everyone start discussing other muserver and what if they move to that server and steal other active members of InfinityMU to the other muserver? We can't just let them stealing like this. For example they discuss the server and we don't ban them, they will start probably start to sharing links. You are right a lot about telling others what server they played before with the purpose to find old friends, but in some other side this is not right just because the conversation can rise to something that I mentioned upper. New banning procedures will not be applied.

Racism - I don't think. The thread wasn't about Vietnamese at all, but just for single people who didn't have place in this community and most vietnamese doesn't have place. I mean about having some big reputation in forum and game just like some of our current GMs/MODs got while they was normal players. At the moment an player from Vietnam agree to follow the rules including helping/active in forum and helping in game he can be easily part from The Staff.

Porn - even in televisions porn is not good to be talked or shared links just because there are watchers below sixteen. Especially in our game there are very many players even below twelve. New banning procedures can apply.




Wake up because no one is blocked permanently for this. More information here. We give a chance to the user 3 times until he understands the rules about signature using. This is important rules because without it your reading on forums won't be that good as it's right now reading my post.

Auto-Pots/Combos I myself can agree for everyone 1 month ban is great warning, but they will doing it again and again, but no problem. 1 week first time and second 1 Month is good. We will update the banning procedures.

Im surprise to see your repply here (oh)

Hack Report: Well, Im trying to say that some videos show only kills and little jumps, thats not enought


I have pratice and Im playing MU here lot of time, 1 kill is not enought, actually, only kill is not enought for say its sh or not, coz its a global servidor, but the host is in Germany (or Bulgaria i dont know) so who dont live near to Germany will have lags, thats not all about good computer and connection.[/QUOTE]

Since the server is ''global'' some peoples (Im a example) can tryed do everything but will be always a lagger...
Maybe you can do smth about it? coz I have good internet connection (10Mbps) and a good computer and still with 300+ ping. (Im from Brasil, thats not near to Germany XD)

Adversiting: As i said in my first post, who are here just for share links and divulgation other servidor must be banned by IP coz it will not help us, I just want to say that some peoples dont give link or have the intention for make Adversition they just say Inf or Infinity and BOM, banned permanent maybe a warn and second time ban for 1 month, if you can just text it, in my eyes that will be great.

Racism: Now all is allowed to apply and join to Staff team, dont means where he's from?
http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthread.php?47184-PHOENIX-T-MOD-Application&p=680155#post680155
http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthr...rom-my-own-in-game-events&p=680369#post680369

Forum: You dont understand my Well, Im the one who got banned for that and i dont know what is wrong with my sig, i've got 1 warning and i change my sig so, 2 months ago i got banned, i saw the new rules but i forget to check my sig coz it was the same as others and BOM ban for one day, i know its not much but i dont want get banned.

Auto Pots: If you have time check some videos like ''My new speed Pot'', lot of peoples share videos showing speed pots and he is potting FAST (to much fast for hands) and he pot 1 minute same (with hands you have your up and downs), and lot of peoples use it but never caught (I was AP user in old times, im clear 1 year ago i stop use it and i send you some ap's last month) but i never caught, played 2 years with AP and never get banend for it, you can be sure lot of peoples use AC and AP that will never change, some MOUSES got ''macro'' for APS and when you press a button it start to pot or you can movie 15 minutes and mouse do what you make on that 15 minutes for you (peoples abuse it for make resets) so the point it, keyboards and mouses can be used with AP thats just show you can't block all ap's and ap users will be always here.


Depends of the situation..for example my first day here was a fail :D. I dueled a lot of players and one of them asked me on what server i played and then he reported me :D

That's is right, when i was a bad guy (i grow up alot last years) i induct the guy to say one server name and them report him and he get permanent ban just why i dont like him...
Some peoples do it but dont have intention to divulgation other servidor...

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About Private Reports, Well i can see it coz Im supporter and i know other peoples abuse it to delet character and consequently use hacks and dont be punishe but is that good for who play fair and got report? He dont have chance to defense himself, he dont know what's happening...
When it was not private i was using it to see who's hacker, who's ap and select only fair player to fight, now normal players can't do it anymore, they can't thanks one ban appeal or one hack report, they can't agree on nothing, i think its should be public again coz with tkz you can show that you agree on it and it can help alot gms and the reported guy.
 
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What the ... ?:brick:
That's not a good internet connection at all. I have 100 Mbps

Thats what Im trying to say, Zaphiel got a Mac + 100Mbps too and he still got a speed pot like mine's...
One guy today got banned for Lag Abusing, but we can't control our lags, thats depends how much near to Germany u're.

About RedRox case, He's a cheater (Im sure he edit smth on files or use any program) coz he kill pro potters together, alone in 1 hit, thats not possible as you're lagger.
 
If you had a more practice .. you will understand me ^_~

If you're on my Country which is Far away from the Server and Unstable ISP, You will Understand me.
 
For all peoples who get permanent by account, have 4 chances to unban in webshop, but change smth,

First Unban -> 25k credits;
Second Unban -> 50k creadits;
Third Unban -> 75k credits;
Four Time -> 100k credits;
Five Time -> No Unban anymore;

Now, About Ban and Ban appeals.



This is good for banning. Its not to easy to change the rules. But i like this banning period.
 
well here's my comment here what if you sir ressistant put a HOST in USA like what you did in your INSANIAMU coz there asian players is not a slow potting there like what stell said we cant control our lag's coz you and your server is TOOOOO far from us but as you can see we can still KEEP on trying 2 play this GAME coz we like and we love it what if YOU AKA the owner help us 2 ? like an example YOU did it in your other server all we KNOW as "INSANIAMU" sir you cant keep us be a lagger here coz what if we CAN'T AFFORD 2 MOVE NEAR 2 YOUR SERVER "like some PRO players who always said MOVE 2 BULGARIA and GET A HIGH SPEED NET COZ ME I AM USING A ALLIEN WARE AND I HAVE 100mbps but i still got lag's not just a LAG COZ it's A HUGE LAG pls help us not 2 get BAN coz of a LAG or LAG ABUSING or WHAT EVER :cooll: here we only see is 2 PUT another HOST here in ASIA or in USA so we can pots fast and we cant complain anymore

sorry if this msg is bad for some of you or even you sir ressistant im just saying what we feel or what do i feel
btw SORRY again and nice thread stell
 
This suggestion is fantastic
1. Light insult
Not every case of insulting is toward the reporter, it could be friends to friends and they don't find that disturbing
2. Advertising
For short form, like what Stell mentioned above may not relate to other online game. This kind usually in the right case so I don't have many comments :)
3. Hack/bug users
This depends on the GMs who look at the report cause this is the kind that makes everyone suspect each other, most recent Siege and wars between alliances are resulted from suspect of SH
4. Porn
This should not get such ban = insult, it doesn't effect much. This is personal entertainment, if mentioning porn gets ban so this --> http://forum.infinitymu.net/showthread.php?46980-Who-do-you-masturbate-to&p=675565#post675565 can be ban too.
5. Racism
I disagree about this most, take a look at PHOENIX's application for TMOD. Many people agree to him cause his attitude change a lot. I remember that in Prestige's announcement, he said something like this "the Admin will decide whether to give them a chance or not, remember that one small mistake will kill your whole story here". So a Vietnamese, who is very active and helpful, have never do anything against our rules still can't apply for staff position just because of those bad players before did bad things ? In PHOENIX's application, he had a very great sentence --> "
One more, I know the last DDoS attack is from Vietnam IPs, it made you disappointed but what will happen if the DDoS attack comes from Germany IPs, Romania IP? Asmos, Titan will be demoted? ofcouse NO ^^~" To me, a Vietnamese, I found that the Administrator can't accept our application just because of what I mentioned, is very, very racism.
 
well here's my comment here what if you sir ressistant put a HOST in USA like what you did in your INSANIAMU coz there asian players is not a slow potting there like what stell said we cant control our lag's coz you and your server is TOOOOO far from us but as you can see we can still KEEP on trying 2 play this GAME coz we like and we love it what if YOU AKA the owner help us 2 ? like an example YOU did it in your other server all we KNOW as "INSANIAMU" sir you cant keep us be a lagger here coz what if we CAN'T AFFORD 2 MOVE NEAR 2 YOUR SERVER "like some PRO players who always said MOVE 2 BULGARIA and GET A HIGH SPEED NET COZ ME I AM USING A ALLIEN WARE AND I HAVE 100mbps but i still got lag's not just a LAG COZ it's A HUGE LAG pls help us not 2 get BAN coz of a LAG or LAG ABUSING or WHAT EVER :cooll: here we only see is 2 PUT another HOST here in ASIA or in USA so we can pots fast and we cant complain anymore

sorry if this msg is bad for some of you or even you sir ressistant im just saying what we feel or what do i feel
btw SORRY again and nice thread stell

Lag, lag and lag. Cry me a river, mother yard. Pack your bags and move yo ass closer to Germany.
Didn't you think that also other peoples play InfinityMU? Server's location is fine.

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Also, about porn, banning for it is a big bull****. Porn shouldn't be censored, and talking about porn would also increase traffic, you know?
So yea, wtf...porn's good.
Also, I noticed that words like "f.uck" "s.hit" are censored in the forum...why the ****? is this a child forum?

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+18. Under 18? Offended 'cause of porn? Get out then, that's not for you peeps.
Nice elf, btw. Didn't notice it...
 
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Cry me a river, motheryard. Pack your bags and move yo ass closer to Germany.
Didn't you think that also other peoples play InfinityMU?

Also, about porn, banning for it is a big bull****. Porn shouldn't be censored, and talking about porn would also increase traffic, you know?
So yea, wtf...porn's good.
Also, I noticed that words like "f.uck" "s.hit" are censored in the forum...why the ****? is this a child forum?

+18. Under 18? Offended 'cause of porn? Get out then, that's not for you peeps.
Nice elf, btw. Didn't notice it...
ok..that's..i think u have a little problem :d

and about the porn..ur right.too many censored words
 
I Can't see the reason why lag abusing is permanent ban iv'e got enough intenet connection hell even fast connection have lags!!. and 'lags' is not a program you can't control your connection so if im banned so does all the players who have a slower connection than mine should be banned too! there are many players abuses lags even intentional mine is unintentional this is not an appeal this goes to other players experiencing this type of problems...

One more thing "abusing of lags" =perma banned should have lighter verdict or consequence while does "BUG ABUSING"=1st warning gm's let if checked you go 2nd warning=to a month of bann this is unfair! cause a lot of players have slow connection with huge lags and doesn't get banned while fast connection+bug users are like swarming flies inside the server! admins please take note on this one...LAG is not a choice Bug is a choice why does it have to be vice versa.. For my opinion being banned by abusing of lags =perma banned is unfair..Venci is accepting players all over the world! the hell you know what is their internet speed do admins check them one by one whats thier speed? hell no....this goes out with people who have been banned like this..and like stell said revised the banning procedures...
 
I think why RESiSTANT become strict of the rules it's because there's a lot of players who abusing the game rules and forum rules, everyday there's report in every report section, and we can't control it. That's life and that's part of the game, so we should accept the reality. And about the AP/AC reports, every game master's shouldn't accept reports such as "qweqweqweqwe" and "123123123123" cases, it depends on the situation. And yeah, that's true that there's a lot of kids in our server who really annoys everyone of us. And before they register they should read the "Terms of Agreement" and once they read it, they will check the box. So, it's a deal with the game, once you register you must read and follow the rules. so i think they shouldn't blame the "Staff Members" once they got banned, because they're the one who making their own mistakes. Anyway, this is a nice idea gustavo, but i don't agree with the "Warnings" because there's some players who can't really follow the rules. and doin' the same mistake again and again. About the Insults, if someone said "Fk u" it means, " F u c k You" so it's still the same, we just need to use our common sense, About the hack reports since there's a few SH programs exist in our server, i think we shouldn't changed it, because it's really unfair and it's really prohibited, And we don't accept SH reports these days. because we know it's already blocked by RESi. and about talking other online games i think we should give them a warning first before we ban them, or if they're discussing another server. because some people aren't updated with the new rules. We can ban them directly if we seen that he really meant to advertise and asking players to play in that server.

So, here are the current banning procedures of Game Master's

Banning procedures

• Insulting

- Insulting Staff: 7 days ban up to 42 days ban.

- Insulting Staff (Serious insulting): Permanent ban.

- Asking for items, pking, serious disturbing to a staff member: 2 days ban up to 7 days ban.

- Insulting between players (Normal insutling): 1 day ban up to 3 days ban.

- Insulting between players (Serious, Family insulting): 5 days ban up to 14 days ban.

• Advertisements

- Any kind of advertisement: Permanent account ban

• Hacks and Cheating

- SpeedHack User: Permanent char ban.

- GuardianPatch User: 7 days ban up to 14 days ban, any kind of using even not killing even just making lag in town.

- Scam Attempt: 3 days ban up to 7 days ban.

- Impersonating Staff: Permanent account ban

- Fake report: 3 days ban up to 14 days ban in serious situations - permanent ban.


• Others

Flooding and spamming via /post: 1 day ban up to 5 days ban.

Buy/Sell items for load: Permanent account ban

I think it's enough, we just need to changed the other procedure of banning.

Note: We shouldn't be too strict of banning players.

We should give them a chance unless they're not abusing

The chances that we give to them.


• Hacks and Cheating

- SpeedHack User: Permanent CHAR ban. But my whole account got banned for SH.
 
As Resi said, everyone who registered AGREED with the rules it's they problem if they don't read them.
 
As Resi said, everyone who registered AGREED with the rules it's they problem if they don't read them.

Yea , but There aren't any rules before installing Mu client .. The main rules must be in install pack that we accept before pressing install button. << This is Rule of Games..

It has said to me other Mu Admin
 
You're wrong,if we ban people for "nothing" we would be demoted and they would be unbanned,the rules are written in the forum and in the website when registering account,you can't register account without accepting the rules.
http://www.infinitymu.net/?op=register
it's players fault if they don't read them or don't want to follow them.
 
You're wrong,if we ban people for "nothing" we would be demoted and they would be unbanned,the rules are written in the forum and in the website when registering account,you can't register account without accepting the rules.
http://www.infinitymu.net/?op=register
it's players fault if they don't read them or don't want to follow them.

We are wrong ?

So you telling that some people live far away from the server hosted and got lags... you telling lag abusing and BOOM Ban ?
You telling if a player jumps sometimes or 1hits he got SH staright away...? And then someone reports them and BOOM innocent Ban again ?
You telling if someone asks you which server you played before you ignore them? Thats rude ? Don't you think so ?
And if you answer him, the player reports him straight away?
and another Innocent ban ?
You telling if someone writes by accident while having chat open "qweqweqweqwweqweqweqweqwe" he is AP and you ban him for it ? Just coz he left his chat open and someone was hitting him?

If you write to someone F U , everyone knows that means f*ck you, but maybe they had something different in the mind ? like fall you or something (StorMy and Asmos said something like that) ?
You dont know and then another Innocent ban...

Many People are getting banned innocently... and most of them are kids just like me ... "But you are in the Staff team and you dont know anything coz u got good connection,no one swears at you, you dont get annoyed, you dont even play so much like normal players do... and they get annoyed and when ur annoyed or angry u can say F U and then straight away ban"
In real life if you say F U are you getting punished for it ?
No you don't So whats the matter?

If you feel so good punishing innocent people keep it up then, and no one is gonna stay on this server except you lot i mean staff team

Is that what you want?
 
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